Im sure there were dodgy discriminatory practices based on race or religion in most big corporations in many countries in the past. It is the oldest licensed distillery by 200 years and was once owned by a Belfast barman who get this was a teetotaller and secretly wrote religous tracts damning the Demon Drink! Hi, I actually know the reason behind the controversy. For a blend, I am really impressed with the Michael Collins. Powers' Morte d'Urban, for example, the novel may strike you as the slightly humorous failures of an all-too worldly priest. Though in the end, I do really prefer Bushmills. In: St. Patrick's Day. That was in fact untrue. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. The other part is that Powers is for everyone else who just doesnt give a f**k. Drink what you drink and like what you like. Thanks again for this essay and the add-on comments. Being good to people is the very best thing you can do for yourself. Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? All Irish whiskey is great. Usually King James Version. It was fine w me, because the Jameson Distillery tour was fantastic. There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. A Mac computer geek thats too young to retire and too old for male prostitution. It was their house label Irish before it was readily available in the US. In a TALL glass.one shot of Maybe they will bottle the Cork supply in Tullamore in the interim. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. All of it. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Parents did their best to kill thatand they did. Interesting and often amusing reading of so many perspectives. My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. I was raised Catholic by my mother after the parents divorced when I was three. Counter-Reformation, also called Catholic Reformation or Catholic Revival, in the history of Christianity, the Roman Catholic efforts directed in the 16th and early 17th centuries both against the Protestant Reformation and toward internal renewal. Now, its important to note that the Scottish Reformation occurred in 1560, so odds are in favor of the founder of the Jameson distillery, being Scottish, was a damn Protestant. It wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that Guinness is in the Republic of Ireland and Bushmills is in Northern Ireland would it? I find Jameson to be a bit too sweet, I guess. In later years I looked more into my family history and came to realize that my Fathers family were local Baptists and my Mothers were Czech Catholics. Im not surprised this thread is still going strong. I dont generally buy it, but Ill drink it without complaint. It is Bushmills that supplies single malt (The Old Bushmills Distillery is the only one of the three in Ireland that distills only triple distilled single malt whiskey, while the Midleton Distillery produces grain & pure potstill spirit and Cooley produces double distilled single malt, grain & potstill), as well as doing the bottling for Jameson, Powers & Paddys (All from Midleton, along with Red Breast, Greenspot & Tullamore Dew). Why not stop purchasing rum to protest Spanish aggression while you are at it. Jamesons too is lovely. @Matt: sorry to hear about religious intolerance in West Virginia but this is a discussion about the distilling history of Irish whiskey, not moonshine. The whiskey was originally produced in Tullamore, County Offaly, Ireland, at the . Initially a war between various Protestant and Catholic states in the fragmented Holy Roman Empire, it gradually developed into a more general . Theres Whiskey and a prod or a catholic will drink it either way. The Catholic Whiskey in Dublin was John Powers. Tim, I made a great Manhattan variation last night with 2oz Powers Gold Label, 1oz Carpano Punt E Mes and a dash or two of Angostura (regular, not orange), stirred up with a cherry garnish and enjoyed it very much indeed. Memories. Ive always preferred the non-woodsy irish Whiskeys so Powers, Knappogue, Red Breast, and recently the Spots have been my drink of choice and never was a fan of bushmills. What a great treat. Both sides here will gradually realise that they have more in common with each other than they do with folk in ROI or England, thats been my experience. I have even concocted a drink for St. Patricks day,. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! In 1827, production was reported at 160,270 gallons,[5] and by 1833 had grown to 300,000 gallons per annum. Powers Gold Label for me, thank you very much. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. It is the same oppression that the Hungarians did to the Slovaks over the ages!!!!! Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! And to those who dont know, that hint of bourbon flavor comes from the fact that Jamesons is aged in used American bourbon barrels as are most Irish whiskeys. All in all meaning, were I to have gone to Ireland to visit, my relatives would probably have been more confused than was I. I would wager that half the comments are from people that have never been to Irelandif I drink vodka does this make me a communist -no! The answer is that it depends on the distillery. You are a great person to forgive and forget the horrible crime that were personal committed against you. Though Bushmills is the #2 Irish whiskey in the U.S., Tullamore Dew is #2 Irish whiskey (after Jameson) worldwide, so not too surprising that you would see it most places. The fact that this blog has been going for so very long tells me the myth is true. While John Jameson was most likely a Protestant, his distillery in Dublin represented the Free State mentality and did not suffer from bigoted hiring practices. 1 line was bottling Bushmills. Theres a scene in season 3 of The Wire that went right over my head: McNulty asks the bartender for a Jameson, and the bartender asks is Bushmills ok? McNulty comes back with aw, thats Protestant whiskey! Grudgingly, he accepts, but asks for it neat. 17-18 years old found the love of my lifea catholic girl. The date of 1608 doesnt even specifically relate to that brand but that a license was granted in somewhere in that general area. It makes things interesting. Powers is readily available in the Balto/Wash area. However, it is generally accepted that the catagory, as a whole, is spelt that way as well. Understanding the church. Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. (Ref. We dont live in the dark ages anymore, though clearly prejudice and ignorance persist. Ive been a big fan of Jamesons for many years, first drinking it when I was younger. Im redbreast girl too, but recently been sipping on the Bushmills 10, thought now Im interested to try Powers Gold Label! The new bottling hall is also taking shape even though itll be a while before the on site whiskey will be bottled. Wow, this was such a fun read through. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? Now I need to locate Redbreast! Ive enjoyed most Irish whiskey Ive sampled, including Powers, Tully, and Bushmills. While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. I prefer the taste of Bushmills as its smoother where Jameson is a sharper taste. In my opinion, its one of the blandest, albeit smoothest, whiskeys Ive tasted. It resulted in the creation of a branch of Christianity called Protestantism, a name used collectively to refer to the many religious groups that separated from the Roman Catholic Church due to differences in doctrine. Or champagne to protest Frankish aggression against the Gallo Romans. I think Paddys may be even rarer in the US than Powers. Those of us that still drink enjoy guinness as our beer Delicious! Bushmills does not, to my certain knowledge, employ Catholics as certain industries/companies are, let us say, reserved for one tribe or another in the Black North. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. [1] Historically, Powers Gold Label was the best-selling whiskey in Ireland. Like seriously you hate us so much you wont drink our whiskey??? If it was a genuine issue then bars wouldnt serve both. You can see why I am confused. Clean, fresh. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. Never tried Redbreast for some reason. [7], In 1871, the distillery was expanded and rebuilt in the Victorian style, becoming one of the most impressive sights in Dublin. Irish whiskeys obtain much of their flavor and color from the coating left inside the barrel from the bourbon aging process. I can guarantee no one here in Dublin or Ireland gives a crap either way. The good news is I dont have to worry about car bomb in Hicktown. Good luck and god bless Hun. And let us not forget the new cask finishes of The Tyrconnell. . A bunch of bigoted b######s arguing over the religion of whiskey. [8] This was a notable departure for the firm, as for many years the big Dublin distilling dynasties had shunned the use of Coffey stills, questioning if their output, grain whiskey, could even be termed whiskey. Ill take one next time Im out. And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. Currently rumored to be building a new distillery, Well, I already put my two cents in well up the thread, but here is some topical good news for the distillery in the North2013 Spirit of the Year: Bushmills http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Having just had this discussion with my buddy who was bribed with a bottle of Bush to express his love of it via twitter (which he refused, good man that he is) I have to say the following-. Also, show some class fellas (Burnsy calling me an idiot) my grandfather who is from Tipperary lost friends because of the Black and Tans (you know the English convicts the English government set upon the Irish), in some cases they were beaten to death!! Redbreast is my favorite but I only buy a bottle or so a year. Rabble Rouser, Bushmills is not total UFV (sic) territory in the slightest. Nostrovia!! Not all American or Irish whiskies spell the word with an elike Makers Mark, George Dickel, Old Forester, Early Times or Paddy spell the word w-h-i-s-k-y. I am still cradling my Bushmills 12 yr Distillery Reserve Whiskey. Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. Enjoy your whiskey and spare a kind word for everyone. Mmmm..Middleton distillery. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. I love Redbreast and always have a bottle about, but based on some comments here Ill definitely be picking up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. So have a pint, pull, prayer, and lets party. The cheap rustic stuff is often the best. As for those Tyrconnell expressions: major thumbs up. Have heard that Jim Beam (the new owners of the Cooley distillery) may discontinue production on contracted whiskies such as this in order to focus squarely on putting Kilbeggan up against Jameson, Bushmills & Tullamore Dew. Great smooth flavor and a soft long finish. Theres not catholic or protestant whiskey. In 1966, with the Irish whiskey industry still struggling following Prohibition in the United States, the Anglo-Irish Trade War and the rise of competition from Scotch whiskey, John Power & Son joined forces with the only other remaining distillers in the Irish Republic, the Cork Distilleries Company and their Dublin rivals John Jameson & Son, to form Irish Distillers. I am Northern Irish and really only see this being an Irish American issue. Id suggest Tullamore Dew, it was founded by Catholics and is still owned by a nice Irish Catholic company. I am Catholic and Slovak and do not care what the British have done to the Irish. An Italian friend, when introduced to the term Uiske Beatha thought the word was bad water and now refers to it as Aqua Sporca or dirty water. Just a point, Jameson is traditionally a Dublin Whiskey, originally distilled and blended in Bow Street in dublins Smithfield. A great whiskey. There is whiskey, and a whiskey drinker is a whiskey drinker no matter how they take it. As for the Tullamore Dew, it actually is the perfect mingling of North & South, since the pot still & grain comes from Midleton in Cork and the single malt is distilled at Bushmills (then aged down at LDI). Irish for the whiskey Powers is good and inexpensive but 2 Gingers is better then them all and reasonably priced!!! Tullamore Dew has lemon notes with wood undertones, whereas Jameson has a light . History matters which is why the Catholic/Protestant thing is relevant. None of that means shit. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Whiskey has no religion. Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. It wasnt an issue about who owns what. Should these facts come into the discussion when considering whether or not to indulge in a pint of the creamy delicious black stuff!? While Redbreast is great, wonderful stuff, dont ever pass up a chance to sample their self-titled Middleton. I just brought some Tyrconnell 10-year port cask aged home from duty free it is delicious. Peter Knox hit the nail on the head in #103 & Hey Bartender is right, giving a crap about what religion founded a whiskeys distillery is about as authentically Irish as corned beefFYI: not a single Irish person I spoke to knew had ever heard of corned beef, it wasnt in the grocery stores & certainly not on any menus. The fact is that Jameson is the Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is the Protestant whiskey and this is according to people I know That live in Belfast. Bushmills also provides single malt for Powers, while Midleton (where many of teh Irish whiskies are produced) provides grain whiskey for the Bushmills blends. This is because Guinness is now seen as a world-wide iconic Irish brand and brings in lots of money to the southern Irish economy. there was thought to be up towards 25 distilleries in this town at one time. This is an interesting thread and I have a few more now to try. One further chapter in the history that really debunks this myth is that between 1972 and 2005, both Midleton (makers of Jameson) and Bushmills were owned by the same corporation, Irish Distillers. I like it very much and find it very smoothalmost like a scotch. As far as I know, spirit doesnt really care which way you worship your sky-fairy. That was over 40 years ago. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? Ive lost members of my family to the IRA in THIS generation. The company has been running since 1780 and has developed and perfected the art of producing the premium quality, top shelf, and smoothest Irish whiskey in the world today. Funny thing is, Jeffrey, that at the end of your debunking of the myth, you subtly reassert its validity in rightly noting that Bushmills is owned by Diageo, a company based in a largely Protestant country, while Jameson is owned by Pernod-Ricard, which is based in a predominantly Catholic country. Go figure . [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. It was one of the longest and most destructive conflicts in European history, resulting in millions of casualties. Irish whiskeys like Bushmills, Redbreast, Powers, and Green Spot, amongst others, have arisen on the market with their own distinctive characteristics. I answered, Episcopalian because we think of ourselves as both and neither. Looking for Irish Whiskey to use in a recipe for bread pudding I paid a visit to our local liquor store and inquired as to the best Irish Whiskey available. I lived through this and lost people to it, and it saddens me to read this. But there was a bar that had a shot of Powers and a Guinness for $7, so as you can guess I ended up drinking quite a bit of it. hint of linseed. Hi all, please dont reinforce past troubles by making brand choices based on hatred. I do drink whatever. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . The Protestant Reformation began in Wittenberg, Germany, on October 31, 1517 . Ginger cake, brazil nuts, treacle Youd probably get glassed if you asked the question in certain places in Ireland or Scotland. The Emperor's war against the Lutheran princes put the first Protestant reformers in a difficult bind. His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. Very sweet (like the inside of a burnt marshmellow). And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. About one-in-five (18%) chose "the Great Crusade," while 6% said "the Great Schism" and 5% said "the French Revolution Delicious. Yes, plenty of Irish whiskey is ordered as shots or in Pickle Backs, but it also works in a number of cocktails, including, of course, McGarry's The Dead Rabbit Irish Coffee. If you guys can get your hands on Kilbeggan, it will not disappointI only recently discovered it and thought Id share. 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